1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:14,440 This is Hacker Public Radio Episode 3,956 from Monday 2 October 2023. 2 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:20,840 Today's show is entitled, HPR Community News for September 2023. 3 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:24,640 It is part of the series HPR Community News. 4 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:30,320 It is hosted by HPR volunteers and is about 41 minutes long. 5 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:33,160 It carries an explicit flag. 6 00:00:33,160 --> 00:00:41,560 The summary is, HPR volunteers talk about shows released and comments posted in September 2023. 7 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:42,560 Hi, everybody. 8 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:43,560 My name is Ken Fallen. 9 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:47,360 You're listening to another episode of Hacker Public Radio. 10 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:53,760 The longest run in podcast without a Wikipedia entry. 11 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:54,760 It's a good point. 12 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:56,960 Yes, yes, we need to solve that somehow. 13 00:00:56,960 --> 00:01:04,360 No, I can't, because everybody is associated with HPR is who submissive the show is not allowed. 14 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:06,240 Shame you can't get chance. 15 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:12,680 GPD to do it on a non-human contributive, no, anyway, whatever, yes. 16 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:13,680 Exactly. 17 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:18,960 Anyway, Hacker Public Radio is a community podcast where the shows submissive by people very 18 00:01:18,960 --> 00:01:24,000 much, in fact, exactly, in fact, it should be you. 19 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:28,520 We are the janitors who put away our brushes, mostly you've been doing the brushing 20 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:37,720 all month and I've been brushing past and this is where we talk about the stuff that's 21 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:45,080 been going on in around the community, so you get the tasks you are, by the way. 22 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:52,080 For me, I'm again, oh yeah, Dave Morris, we're not that far yet, Dave soon, but not 23 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:53,080 just. 24 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:58,200 I do have trouble sometimes, just getting the brain engaged, you know, the gears slip 25 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:00,080 a bit. 26 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:05,200 So you traditionally welcome the new horse, and I do, I do, silent anticipation to see 27 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:07,200 if they're right. 28 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:10,800 Yes, we have two new hosts, isn't that great? 29 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:16,240 We have two, we do, we do, we have noodles, which I assume is the correct, sort of looks 30 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:21,560 like, anyway, is the correct way to pronounce it, and we have hobs, so we will absolutely 31 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:25,240 be hearing from them soon as we go through the shows. 32 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:27,920 So speaking of going through the shows, that's kind of what we do. 33 00:02:27,920 --> 00:02:37,040 The first show to review for this month was episode 3935, which was server-build retrospective 34 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:38,800 by Daniel Pearson's. 35 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:46,000 Yeah, he's doing a cool thing of building a server, a one-new server, it's got a one-new 36 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:51,800 rack to put it in, and yeah, we should have been a picture, I would have been, but then 37 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:55,160 most people wouldn't care for it, but I quite enjoy that sort of stuff. 38 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:57,160 No, I like seeing pictures. 39 00:02:57,160 --> 00:03:04,640 Yes, I was given the option of getting some old, you know, pipe powerful servers from 40 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:13,720 the market, that we're checking out, but the noise and the power kind of issues were the ones 41 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:14,720 that got me. 42 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:16,360 Yeah, yeah, exactly. 43 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:24,440 I was on foot, zeon processor, things, and some sun kit, but exactly, my electricity 44 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:26,160 would have been frightening. 45 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:27,160 Yeah, exactly. 46 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:33,280 There were no comments on that as yet, so let's move on to the historic community news, 47 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:37,200 which is the show, and again, there was no comments on that show. 48 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:38,200 Nothing controversial, Dave. 49 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:39,200 No. 50 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:40,200 No. 51 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:41,200 No. 52 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:42,200 No. 53 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:43,200 No. 54 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:44,200 Good. 55 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:45,200 We'll fix that this time. 56 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:54,400 So the adventures in Pyhol, which was Nudel's show, and this was fantastic, this is a reason 57 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:59,920 to have a Linux server in your network, and there was one comment from Windigo, do you want 58 00:03:59,920 --> 00:04:01,920 to do that one? 59 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:02,920 Yep. 60 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:03,920 Yes. 61 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:10,520 Windigo says, clever, static IP solution, I run a similar Pyhol setup, I've never thought 62 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:15,680 about it in IP, least for the Pyhol itself, or a neat way to keep your addressing in one 63 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:16,680 place. 64 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:17,680 Good. 65 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:18,680 Sorry. 66 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:19,680 Good idea. 67 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:22,680 Mr. Bitfanks, I enjoyed your episode, and look forward to your next contribution. 68 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:23,680 Yes. 69 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:27,240 But I agree with Windigo as I often do. 70 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:28,240 Yeah. 71 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:29,240 Yeah. 72 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:43,040 It was that way he set up a sort of DHCP, least, I think he had a static, did you have 73 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:48,280 a, you know, can check the text, did you have a static IP address, and then say he did 74 00:04:48,280 --> 00:04:49,280 him, please. 75 00:04:49,280 --> 00:04:51,280 So I never was going to go. 76 00:04:51,280 --> 00:04:54,800 I would quite understand whether that is a feature of DHCP, where you just say, or 77 00:04:54,800 --> 00:05:00,280 the DHCP, when you see this, make it that, or whether it's a, that is magic. 78 00:05:00,280 --> 00:05:06,680 So you both, the issue with that is your dependent on your DHCP server to be up. 79 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:15,800 So what that means is the server, if asked by the Pyhol, I have this MAC address, ABC, 80 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:23,440 and make sure I get IP address 1, 2, 3, but as a static address configured on the Pyhol, 81 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:30,000 it's never going to send a request, but the DHCP server is never going to issue that address 82 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:31,760 because it's reserved. 83 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:33,760 So, okay. 84 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:34,760 Okay. 85 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:40,200 Kind of, you're using static IP addresses, but you're keeping your DHCP by adding the 86 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:44,840 reservation, you're, you're making, it's more an administration thing than anything else. 87 00:05:44,840 --> 00:05:45,840 Mm-hmm. 88 00:05:45,840 --> 00:05:46,840 Yeah. 89 00:05:46,840 --> 00:05:48,080 I've never done it quite like that. 90 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:57,320 So, yeah, I, I couldn't, I didn't fully understand how it was done, but different routes 91 00:05:57,320 --> 00:05:59,600 is have different methods, I guess, as well. 92 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:00,600 Yep. 93 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:06,820 But normally, it's a way to normally what I do, or add on in the past is a sign of 94 00:06:06,820 --> 00:06:15,200 luck, so from, I don't know, 1, 200 is not issued by the DHCP servers, and then outside 95 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:16,200 it at the range. 96 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:20,480 But this is another way of doing what's which is actually quite cool as a, yeah, yeah, just 97 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:26,040 delay getting everything to the Pyhol, which sounded like a really good thing to be able 98 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:27,040 to do. 99 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:32,760 And he also, I think, said he's got it in a container, and he's got backup, so he can switch 100 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:38,240 to a different, the other backup container, should anything go seriously wrong, I think 101 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:39,240 that's what he said. 102 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:40,240 Yep. 103 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:42,440 So, yeah, yeah, sounded really, really good. 104 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:44,960 There's some lessons to learn from that, I think. 105 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:45,960 Cool. 106 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:50,840 The following day, we had another thing that I haven't heard of, which was the open 107 00:06:50,840 --> 00:06:56,560 directory of web audio, where D&T was looking for an open directory of audio streams 108 00:06:56,560 --> 00:07:01,240 and found radiohiphon browser.info. 109 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:07,760 I, yeah, I didn't, I completely forgot to go and look at it in any detail, I have to 110 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:08,760 say. 111 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:15,840 I think I found that one before my son and his girlfriend came back from Greece last year, 112 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:16,840 something. 113 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:22,280 And they were saying, oh, it's good, we were listening to Greek radio, blah, blah, blah. 114 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:26,200 And I think we just sort of went poking around on the internet, see if we could find 115 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:28,200 any Greek music. 116 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:34,040 And we found that, and we were listening, we were having dinner, which wasn't Greek, 117 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:39,400 we were listening to stuff on that, I think it was the same one, fantastic idea, really, 118 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:40,400 really interesting. 119 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:48,240 The GOIP is, if you go to the GOIP, you can select at a region, there's loads in Antarctica. 120 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:51,440 I don't know how accurate this is. 121 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:58,000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it is a map with the, with the pop-up things like that, you can zoom 122 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:00,440 in and click the one I use anyway. 123 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:03,440 And yeah, we were quite fascinated with that. 124 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:05,440 So, yeah, very good. 125 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:14,800 Okay, DNT had a comment on the social saying, since the recording, sorry, it's an 126 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:15,800 update. 127 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:20,160 Since the recording, the developer of Open Radio has released an update, fixing the 128 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:22,480 issue with Android Audio. 129 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:27,760 So now that is the app to use for me, perfect. 130 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:34,560 Android Auto also, I think it was that not the car, the car-based interface or something. 131 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:39,040 Weird, I don't use that sort of stuff in the car. 132 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:45,120 Well, I don't, the car's for my wife for driving to work, and we happen to be in it today, 133 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:54,400 and I happened to, yeah, to turn on a iPhone, and it asked about activating Apple's stuff, 134 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:58,000 and then what we had canceled the whole thing, we booted it. 135 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:04,800 I have a, I don't know what it's expecting, and it will deliver, say no. 136 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:13,920 I have an audio thing in my car, and I have used it to interface to my Android phone in the 137 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:19,600 past, when I used to, this car's old nose 10 years old, when I used to drive up and more, actually, 138 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:25,680 it was to drive up and down to some Android Zoom and door to a university, then I would put 139 00:09:25,680 --> 00:09:34,000 podcasts on through through the car audio, and that was quite good, but I'm using it for a good, 140 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:39,840 I don't know, five years or something. So, yeah, good if you can, good if you have it, and you need it, 141 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:47,040 and they have it, good, good. The next day we heard how to get into tech and hacking, 142 00:09:48,560 --> 00:09:54,320 getting interested in tech can start in both odd and familiar places, and this is Trickster's 143 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:58,240 Yeah, this was great, actually. This was really good. 144 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:07,840 Trickster was the name I didn't know. He's been around since 2011, according to my little bit of research, 145 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:11,440 and this is his second show, so fantastic. Thank you very much. 146 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:17,920 Call founder of mobilegames.com. Yeah, there's tons of really interesting 147 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:24,640 tech subjects that one could jump off into. Thanks, actually. 148 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:28,240 What he talked about in this show, so yeah, I'd like to hear more. 149 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:37,920 As you know, following day, we had equipment maintenance, this is a Hougar's travel series, 150 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:44,640 and linked to his blog there about equipment maintenance, or the RV, etc. 151 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:51,440 Basically, your tone will home, you're talking a home around. Do you want to read retals? 152 00:10:52,320 --> 00:11:00,080 Come on. Yeah, Reto says tires, higher Hougar, really good thing that you maintain a diary. 153 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:05,360 But on the other hand, I got the impression that some hard feelings came up on revisiting that time. 154 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:10,880 It's my little face. You're in Switzerland, the complete valve is replaced when the tire is replaced. 155 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:16,000 Just as a sign note, as always, I enjoyed your show. These things off. 156 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:25,200 Kevin says, telling it like it is, my objective is to be, has been to simply tell the things that 157 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:29,600 happened, including the things that were mistakes. That means, words and all. 158 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:36,880 That way, it might be of use to others. Yeah, I appreciate that, and that's when people do that, 159 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:43,280 yeah, yeah, it's good to know. I mean, it's reality, isn't it? And it's always good to 160 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:50,960 to get that rather than a reduced version. However, enjoy it. I've also found out that 161 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:57,760 YouTubers use as a way to engage with their audience by deliberately putting in mistakes. 162 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:03,200 Yeah, yeah, makes sense. You're more real and trusted. 163 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:08,640 Let's go. Oh my god, is there nothing that isn't used by people to profit? 164 00:12:09,680 --> 00:12:16,720 I don't know. Yeah. Following day, we had an interview with Joseph Kernzander 165 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:29,040 apologies there for for that. And this show was where the match was doing penetration tests, 166 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:39,360 etc. using for KPMG. Yeah, yeah, it was an insight into a world that I know very, 167 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:43,840 very little about other than listening to operator talking about it from time to time. 168 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:51,840 Yeah, so it was fascinating, really fascinating, really an hour long, but a very, very good, 169 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:58,640 an interesting hour I found. And I'll do Rachel's comment honestly. Hi, 170 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:05,120 both. This is a very good show, a news of answers, how you reflected open-made shortcomings. 171 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:11,040 But then again, being aware of it is the key to change. One thing I disagree, CO2, 172 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:16,800 this is making the earth nothing more, but more green, which is brilliant. 173 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:26,160 Citation needed. There is 0.038% CO2 in the air, not even 1% CO2, 174 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:30,160 is one of the heaviest gases, therefore it's on the ground. A greenhouse carries 175 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:36,160 that last roof to keep the heat, just a side note to think about. And surely does the 176 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:40,640 climate change, why not? I will listen to it again. It was overall interesting. 177 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:50,000 Okay, how to make friends? Some guy in the internet replies to Catto-Clatoo. 178 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:58,800 Platoo show about how to make friends. There's a spawned spawned. Yes, a spawned several shows, 179 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:06,080 which was excellent. Yeah, Scotty has some interesting views on a lot of their subjects. 180 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:13,280 So he's really good to listen to his YouTube point. So yeah, it was good. There's more. I think 181 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:21,920 he's going to do another one next month if I'm not wrong. So yeah, well worth listening to. 182 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:30,080 And again, next show, why my Dell does it better than Linux? Nightwise talks about his Dell 183 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:41,840 XPS 15 with Linux. And that's good to hear. No comments on that show. And the next show was 184 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:49,280 Race for the Galaxy to Lula explains very basics of the car game called Race for the Galaxy. 185 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:56,400 I thought she explained this very well, but I appear to be the only one in this house who doesn't 186 00:14:56,400 --> 00:15:06,720 like playing games. I know I know I tend to leave myself notes saying I'm sure those enjoy 187 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:14,720 this sort of thing finds this amazing that I'm not one sadly. I just passed the bomb to the people 188 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:22,160 and then oh, you might try risk for the Galaxy. So good to know. Following day Daniel 189 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:29,440 Pearson's again with summarized essential chrome plugins that he uses every day. And this 190 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:35,920 I thought was quite interesting. It's interesting to hear what people use. Yeah, isn't it? Yes. 191 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:43,200 Yes. I thought a lot of people had moved away from from chrome, but yeah, I mentioned that 192 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:50,640 I think our bubble on MasterDone is quite small, Dave. I'm probably full of CO2. 193 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:58,960 Now I really think we're already messed up what you did. It's yeah, yeah, I don't know. I don't know. 194 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:08,400 It's I have moved away from chrome, but I'm not sure moving to Firefox. This is 195 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:15,920 benefited me enormously. So, Daniel. Yeah. The issue of chrome is a lot of it's like back in the 196 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:21,600 Internet Explorer. There's some websites more than work. Now we're the only work in chrome. 197 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:27,920 That's what I think. Yeah, I find that Firefox just completely fails to 198 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:35,200 give me access to various things. Not necessarily Firefox as well. No, no, no, no, 199 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:41,680 but I use that as my main browser. And then I switch to the value and often that lets me do stuff. 200 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:48,400 But I don't know if that's better or worse than chrome. I don't know. It works sometimes. 201 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:55,760 So the next day we had the part do of planning for a planner where some guy in the Internet 202 00:16:55,760 --> 00:17:01,040 and bumblebee were talking continued to talk about discount patterns, attendance pens, and more. 203 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:09,520 And retail had a comment. Can you do this on? Yes, yes. Yeah. Rachel says previously, 204 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:15,760 Hi, Scotty. Previously on HBO. I love the intro. The voice just touched Laura and I would have thought 205 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:22,000 I was watching a USA TV show series. Brilliant. Some things make a difference. 206 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:28,640 See, I'm having a problem with reading today as well. Brilliant. Come a small things make a difference. 207 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:34,880 So yeah, that case that word was was what made the difference. So the next day we had 208 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:41,760 archiving floppy disks show about archiving old floppy disks by Steve Sainer. And if there was 209 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:52,640 not a more appropriate time, a lot of people are saying that the life, the lifespan of my 210 00:17:52,640 --> 00:18:01,600 net media is limited. And therefore, if you have floppy disks in this regional time, it's a good 211 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:08,240 idea to get them archived. And Steve is there with an explanation of how and why you might do that. 212 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:13,840 Yeah, it was two approaches actually, we enjoyed it. Yeah, yeah, I certainly found it 213 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:20,960 to quite interesting. I've probably done some of this at some stage, but not for a long time. 214 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:26,800 But it was great to have to revisit the techniques and methods and think about some of these things. 215 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:34,800 Did he talk about five and a quarter inch disks? Yes, I'm long going to. Yeah, wow. 216 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:43,440 So a thing of my man came talking about creativity. Yes, this was Nightwise and Kevin says 217 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:50,240 at where he was cleaning up his stuff and gone past. Nightwise was setting up his podcast 218 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:55,440 where he gave a messyastic and talking about the stuff that he found up there. One of which 219 00:18:55,440 --> 00:19:02,240 so two cows come up, Kevin and Brian says, I do remember two cows and as it happens, they're 220 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:07,760 still around, but to change the business from being a software repository to being an internet 221 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:18,800 services company. I use their hover subsidiary as my domain name register. So many two cows were like 222 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:26,960 the Google of their time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I didn't really get involved much. I'm not sure 223 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:33,360 what what era was that? I can't remember. 90s I think. Yeah, probably working in the 224 00:19:33,360 --> 00:19:38,960 university, not having an internet at home. It wasn't the thing that the really impeached on me much. 225 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:45,680 Allowing, obviously, knew the name, but didn't ever use it. We used to use 226 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:53,520 of browsing and search, we used all to vista a lot of the time in those days. I think it was. 227 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:58,480 So yeah, but anyway, interestingly, good stuff. Yeah, it was the wrong letter. 228 00:19:59,360 --> 00:20:05,680 And Nightwise proving that's the guideline to post officials 10 days apart. It's only a guideline 229 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:14,240 because we have a show from him on how he uses virtualization to tame his social media addiction 230 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:21,200 by using command line applications in the console. Well, that's kind of a good idea, actually. 231 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:28,640 Yeah, yeah. Certainly done that to some extent. I mean, you are, I mean, I, I 232 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:35,680 arisen and stuff like that. I've used, I've used both gooey and command line stuff and really 233 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:40,720 preferred the command line thing. Yep, quite a lot. But I didn't know about half of these things. 234 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:47,760 He mentions here, they're the apps. Yeah. I don't, I don't subscribe to some of the 235 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:56,480 to the applications anyway. And you know, discord. I have an account bus in store and 236 00:20:57,440 --> 00:21:02,960 tell me everything here. Yeah. Man, you comments this month, is there? No, no, we're quite 237 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:05,840 quite there on the ground this this time for some reason. Yeah. 238 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:14,240 All right. Next day we had a hookah with one of the best overlooked games, 239 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:23,440 Sid Myers Alpha Centurion. And again, I passed this one on. A lot of some videos and stuff going into 240 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:30,400 the various different aspects of the game. Yeah. Yeah. It's made me, this series of his 241 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:36,080 made me, Winston, it should be in a series, shouldn't it? This particular show, rather than um, 242 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:43,760 because it has, has all the other ones been in some gaming thingy. I'll check it after anyway. 243 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:52,560 But yeah. It, um, it made me more alert, you know, browsing through YouTube and stuff to, uh, 244 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:59,840 to people talking about, um, civilization and, you know, sieve and related things. So yeah, it's, 245 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:05,600 it's not again, not thing I'm likely to have a play, but interesting to know about. Yeah, we're hip 246 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:16,880 with the older new games that are coming up there. Yeah. An operator had, what some people might 247 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:25,040 think was a very silly show, uh, called a cell phone screen protectors and how he feels to put 248 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:34,320 them on. However, this was full of interesting information for me, because I happen to have one 249 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:41,120 of my children who goes through, goes through telephones like other people might go through 250 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:50,720 underwear, David. Oops, that stuff doesn't kind of mean. Yeah. Yeah. And uh, screen protectors 251 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:59,680 put in a wall and has been, uh, has helped us imagine. So this show. Yeah. Do you know, I've never 252 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:09,440 done one. I've never put one on myself or on my phone. Um, but yeah, the fact that he was in a constant battle 253 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:17,600 with dust, make me, made me both laugh and go, oh, God, for so I felt really felt for him, 254 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:24,160 the, the fight he was having there. Yeah. Yeah. My, my kids do it for me, would you feel 255 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:32,000 me, because they were adept at doing that over for manipulation than I am these days. I'm looking 256 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:41,120 forward to that, David. Making the case for Markdown, Keith Murray was making to discuss in the 257 00:23:41,120 --> 00:23:47,520 background of applications of Markdown. I show which I thoroughly enjoyed, because at the time I was 258 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:54,160 sorting knots and screws and nails into little cubby holes in the shed. And there is nothing 259 00:23:54,160 --> 00:24:00,240 as satisfying. You know, that scene in Emily, where he's this happiest 20s cleaning out his toolbox 260 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:08,880 hoovering it with everything back here. Yeah. He was a little happy moment just there. Yeah, 261 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:12,960 yeah. It's just sort of the sort of thing you want, you want to be listening to, I guess, 262 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:19,920 under those circumstances. Good, uh, good history and good, uh, tip on various different Markdowns 263 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:27,600 and uh, good links there for various different syntaxes. Uh-huh. And I saw a brochure. Yeah, yeah, 264 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:35,120 it was, it was very welcome. I thought I ought to find it quite fascinating. It, uh, yeah, it's been 265 00:24:35,120 --> 00:24:42,000 a strange journey from the early days of Markdown to, to now, because it's, it's, it's everywhere in various 266 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:50,240 forms. Um, so yeah, it's, uh, things have changed a fair bit in terms of, you know, the dialects 267 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:56,320 and also, how you can use it and incorporate it and things. So it's fascinating subject, I think. 268 00:24:57,280 --> 00:25:03,280 Yeah. And the following day, we have large language models, AI don't have any common sense. 269 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:09,680 Learn how to run GPT2, limited to, to test some common, quote, sense questions hosted by 270 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:15,440 Hubsan, Hubs, and Greg, a lot. Greg, I think we only heard from the last five minutes, 271 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:22,320 loved the show. Um, felt I was a little bit in the deep end, would have loved a bit more explanation. 272 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:27,600 We need about 10 more shows on, you know, the basics of the large language model. And this 273 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:35,760 is where it comes from. And, you know, you know, not all of us are, uh, you know, when you're 274 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:42,720 into as deep as this, but we call to have like the basics of AI for us. What do you think they're 275 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:51,520 yeah, I think you're right. It's some, it's, it's an interesting thing. It's amazing how 276 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:58,880 vast quantities of data can be crunched down into a form that can be brought back again in a 277 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:06,320 sort of sort of statistical process, which is, which is about all I know about it, though my, 278 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:11,600 I've said to have a chance from my son's doing work in his area. And his boss says, 279 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:19,840 these LLMs are all very well, but they're like, he would say, stochastic parents. So, 280 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:24,880 their things that sort of gather gather lots and lots of information like parents do, 281 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:32,880 and then suddenly spit out in some sort of, uh, possibly sensible, but it may be sensible because of 282 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:42,080 the context or your interpretation of the context or whatever. So, uh, so yeah, but, but I think what's 283 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:50,320 been, yeah, I agree totally that understanding of the fundamentals of it is really, really important. 284 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:59,440 And also, um, what can you actually tune these things, because it's an engine basically, 285 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:08,320 which has got a huge amount of data in some data store, and then can process it to produce 286 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:16,560 useful stuff out of the, such as through it or a walk through it. Um, can you actually 287 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:25,440 use it for something other than, uh, what, what it's currently being used for at the edges, you know, 288 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:30,080 a little bit where it says right near the Python program to do, exactly. It's said, 289 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:35,920 often you get something quite useful, but if you, if you, if you ask it, how many legs two 290 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:40,080 four cows over then, yeah, just though it was a wonderful question. Yeah, I was going to tell 291 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:45,680 then you, uh, you can be completely lost because it's, uh, it's not using, there's no 292 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:55,120 data in the corpus that leads to anything useful, I guess. If you, if you build your own, 293 00:27:55,200 --> 00:28:01,120 or enhance the corpus of information, can you make it to be useful? That's a bit that 294 00:28:01,120 --> 00:28:10,480 fascinated me. Yeah. And, ironically enough, our short transcript is done by the Open API 295 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:16,080 group, the whisper programmers from them. So, you know, you don't run them text as 296 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:24,080 and outcomes English, you run them all deal and outcomes English text. It's, it is that's pretty 297 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:30,320 interesting. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's more short, more short, more short, but, uh, assume 298 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:36,480 we know nothing. We know nothing you're explaining to, uh, two, two, two, seven year olds who have 299 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:44,240 no clue. Yeah. Yeah. I, I would rather not be the, the, yeah, the dim width. I'm into the 300 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:50,480 guy to this. Yeah. Somebody to, to lead me into a little bit better would be good. Yeah. There's more 301 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:56,880 shortes there. There, there, there is more shows there is what we're trying to say. Andy. Okay. 302 00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:05,440 The following day, Mr. X and yourself had a chat again. I always have, uh, I just have visions of 303 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:13,280 E2, sitting in the car and so park, you know. And worried mother is going past rushing their kids 304 00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:20,560 past the front of the car. Don't look at them. Don't look at them. There's, I think it's people 305 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:28,080 having had interesting, often liquid lunches on a, on a Sunday sort of stumbling back to their 306 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:33,920 vehicles, hopefully with the, with a designated driver. And, uh, and it was incredibly busy on 307 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:39,280 that road. Um, it's a, it's a sort of main road out of Edinburgh that takes you quite an 308 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:44,800 scenic route. They've had some big motorbikes for going up and down. Yeah, some reason they would do 309 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:51,680 that. Yeah. Yeah. So yeah. Anyway, it's, uh, it's a format that we quite like because we get lunch 310 00:29:51,680 --> 00:30:00,160 and then then the chance. Yeah. Exactly. It's just recorded and posted. I did. Yeah. Fantastic. Love the 311 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:05,520 bit about the, uh, the Dutch thing. But as I keep pointing out, we're good at infrastructure. 312 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:11,040 It's all. It's just the bikes and the, and the trains are a part of it. But they also build 313 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:18,880 an phenomenal amount of more ways and roads and stuff far too much stuff. Yes. Yes. I mean, 314 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:24,320 there's some, there was one video where I remember watching where they were pointing out that 315 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:30,160 kind of remember where it was with the Utrecht. I can't remember where what was a multi-lane 316 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:36,080 motorway thing going through there. Yeah. The city has been turned into a canal back into a canal 317 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:42,000 and stuff. So, you know, there's, there's some, there's some good common sense there somewhere. 318 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:48,400 Just, you know, obviously fighting with the, the car. The car people are a lot. Yeah. 319 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:58,160 Okay. Utrecht was particularly bad. They had, uh, I think it had a lot of, um, bond damage from 320 00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:02,880 the Second World War, you know, there's the center of around the railway there. And a lot of the 321 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:11,120 apartments are a lot of the old, uh, you know, buildings were, you know, very poor repair and then the car 322 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:19,280 thinking then and we're going to, we're going to modernize still a city. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. 323 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:26,720 Yeah. I mean, it was easy to get carried away by all of that stuff at certain points in time. 324 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:33,680 I certainly found as a, somebody who lived in Manchester for about five years that the fact that 325 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:42,640 the, the motorways sort of, uh, discouraged close to the city was quite advantageous for you. 326 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:48,640 If you would, you know, driving in from outside the city was great. But then you suddenly realize, 327 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:55,120 well, yeah, but what does it, what does it make this city? It's just a sort of, uh, motorway with shops 328 00:31:55,120 --> 00:32:00,400 type of taboo, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's, glass covers like that too. But glass goes the, the motorway 329 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:05,840 is under underneath. So there's, there's waterways and roadways across the top of it. And the 330 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:12,800 city's not that, but it's still, when you stop and look, it's repulsive, but anyway, that's maybe things 331 00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:20,960 will change in time. Yeah. We will see, we will see baby steps. Yep. Okay. On the 29, 332 00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:29,440 which is today is where we're recording this. Daniel Pearson's had air, her, uh, air gradient 333 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:36,240 measurement station, which is something I need to build. Yeah. It's just listening to a 334 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:42,400 sounds like doable project, actually. Yeah. There's this number of people who, I've seen on YouTube 335 00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:49,520 with, with ready built ones and stuff. Um, and, uh, yeah, and I've often looked at them and thought, 336 00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:55,760 that would be quite cool. One, one, actually measuring suit. Just as his do see a two, I remember. 337 00:32:55,840 --> 00:33:03,520 Yeah. It does, isn't it? Yeah. And humidity. So it's, um, it, it would be quite a fun thing to, to have. 338 00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:11,040 Um, so yeah. It's, it's, uh, yeah. Which there was a bit more information, actually. Yeah. 339 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:18,000 Well, it was just because they look like. Yeah. Exactly. But as I just bought a book on making 340 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:25,280 a software to find radio and virtually every page has this is not a project for beginners. This is 341 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:30,800 a very advanced project. Please, you know, practice with kids themselves. Okay. Maybe I need to 342 00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:36,800 build some kids and stuff before we will. Yeah. Yeah. Now that's fair enough. And that was it, 343 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:45,200 uh, for the shows for the month. Indeed. So do we have any past common Steve? We have one, 344 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:54,080 um, yeah. It's not much, not much. And then the, um, notes for this particular show. We have a, 345 00:33:54,160 --> 00:34:04,640 we have a comment from Kevin O'Brien to show 3934 from Tula, uh, who's talking about Crusader King's 346 00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:11,600 too. And Hooka says, I was really happy to listen to this show. This is a kind of game I need to 347 00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:22,320 explore more. So good stuff, super. And mail this not a lot on us, uh, events not a lot of, 348 00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:29,360 want to talk about, uh, fast them. So that's going to take place on Saturday, the third and suddenly 349 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:37,120 the fourth of February in Belgium. And it'll be at the usual ULB. And you're not going to 350 00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:47,520 have, and I am not also not going this time. But if people were wanting to go representing HVR, 351 00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:56,400 it feel free to reach out to us. There's also, um, I have been asked if we want to do the 352 00:34:56,400 --> 00:35:04,080 speaker interviews. So if people once would be interested in helping me out doing that, uh, 353 00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:10,880 that will be good. Be away for HVR to keep our foot in. Um, so if you're interested in, um, 354 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:19,200 basically be involved emailing the keynote speakers, a list of questions, getting those back, 355 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:27,040 sending them on to, um, the team possibly recording an interview and posting it. That's sort of 356 00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:33,200 think, if you're willing to help out with that, that would be great. Uh, right now, uh, I didn't think 357 00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:41,280 I would be able to do that. I might have time to do that because they, uh, they think there's a 358 00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:46,720 big event personally, a person thing that's won't be happening now until the beginning of the year 359 00:35:46,720 --> 00:35:55,120 next year. So that's, um, cool. Um, do you want to talk about the side migration then? 360 00:35:55,120 --> 00:36:01,120 Yeah. It's not a huge lot to say, actually, um, I just thought I'd keep the subject going because we, 361 00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:08,720 there are still things to do. We're sort of chugging away doing them. So, uh, we've been working on 362 00:36:08,720 --> 00:36:18,080 fixing broken links, um, in some of the, the, the static site templates, um, have needed some 363 00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:25,600 changes. I think that's, we don't more or less. I think so. Yeah. Yeah. It was this month. I wasn't 364 00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:32,240 yeah. Good news. I know it was. And, um, but there's database stuff that needs changes as well. 365 00:36:32,240 --> 00:36:38,720 Um, made a, made a start, but there's still a fair bit to do. So, there will be cases where if 366 00:36:38,720 --> 00:36:45,760 you go to a show that says to read more, click here, uh, and it will not, in fact, in there. So, 367 00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:52,640 it will have to, uh, it takes it so that it doesn't take you anywhere, in fact, does it? 368 00:36:52,960 --> 00:37:02,000 They just, yeah. Um, so one of the things we've just done is to add the link to the 369 00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:09,120 internet archive version of the show to every show so that if you find that that happens, 370 00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:16,720 you could look at that and you know where it is by virtue of that link in the, on the show page itself. 371 00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:23,680 So, but we were on the files all of there. So, yes. Oh, yeah. So, I think, well, unless you find out 372 00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:33,280 otherwise, the picture, when we did it was to make sure everything was available on the internet archive. 373 00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:38,720 So, you should, should find everything is properly linked there and, uh, and it's available there 374 00:37:38,720 --> 00:37:45,440 for download or whatever else you want to do with it. Um, so that's a, that's a sort of stop gap. 375 00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:48,560 But we'll leave, I think we'll leave it up because I think it might be, be useful. 376 00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:54,560 Yeah, it's, um, but, uh, but yeah. So, we'll leave that link on the pages, what I mean. 377 00:37:54,560 --> 00:38:00,880 But, uh, the, for the moment where we still have the job to go through and change all of the, 378 00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:04,640 we're the broken links. It's not a vast number of them, but it's enough to be annoying. 379 00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:10,400 So, uh, that's feathers. Yeah, there's lots that's the link about 380 00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:18,080 tooth. What was that? Don't know how many apps, uh, that are good full show notes. 381 00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:23,600 So, we got the full show notes. But within the, he's reaching the HTML, there's a 382 00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:30,160 north, a lot of links, 40,000 or something. That's, we all need to, no, we need to check. 383 00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:39,600 And if we don't find them, then, uh, we want to replace the link with the internet archive, 384 00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:46,880 way back machine version that was as valid around about that time. So, it's, uh, non-trivial, 385 00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:52,800 your solution of what the link to the internet archive is good, but it's, it's good full stop, 386 00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:59,440 you paragraph. Um, however, it'll defeat the purpose if we are relying totally on the internet archive, 387 00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:06,720 because this is what I wanted. The whole thing is to be, uh, replicatable. And this is just one 388 00:39:06,720 --> 00:39:13,200 of these shaving-a-yack things that, uh, I was trying to locate the files that we were missing. 389 00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:19,600 And then, that led me to an oven of displays to find it on the HTML or disk, and then I had 390 00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:26,160 to reopen displays, which I involved identifying that one of the disks on my nose, I'd gun down, 391 00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:32,880 and it was, I needed to be remerd. So, I was doing that. So, in the background, right now, 392 00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:41,680 thinking my, uh, thinking the HBR, she'll files over to work on it. So, work is continuing, 393 00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:47,680 but it's, uh, it's slow. Yeah, excuse me, excuse me, Dave, that's basically what I'm talking about. 394 00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:56,000 It's, it's partly because what we're having to do is to look through the notes of all of the 395 00:39:56,080 --> 00:40:03,200 shows as HTML. I mean, we've done some of the current, the fixes, by simply doing 396 00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:10,320 textual scans, using regular operations and stuff, and that's worked. That's worked pretty well, 397 00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:18,160 as a strategy, but once you get into needing to tweak URLs, which, and you need to know which ones 398 00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:25,040 are, are active, because if somebody's gone in there and commented out, or you're, like, you're, 399 00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:31,680 you're right, because we could, the, the link was broken, and we put the, the internet archive 400 00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:37,280 in its place, and if we do it based on just text, we're going to go and change the comment. 401 00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:43,360 Yeah, I'm not careful. So, all of that sort of stuff, it needs something with the enough intelligence 402 00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:50,960 to understand the HTML and, and change only the relevant bits. So, that's the thing I'm currently 403 00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:57,360 working on. I do have done this sort of stuff before, just how the stuff gets shunted off, 404 00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:04,720 the HPR database into internet archives. So, hopefully I can just port some of the code from that 405 00:41:04,720 --> 00:41:11,760 to this, but yeah, it's, you know, it's, it's, it's not going to be quick, but it will slow 406 00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:20,400 and steady, hopefully we'll get there. And just as a by the way, we're running low on shows, 407 00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:25,280 so I will be posting this show and I'll be posting some shows from the reserve queue 408 00:41:26,240 --> 00:41:31,600 to fill up next week. So, if you have shows, ready to go rock, can you please send them in? 409 00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:39,760 Thank you. Yep. Good, good. Okay, I'm just getting out Steve. 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